for the lion….inside of me
Is he roaring from his throat or his diaphragm? I think I know the answer to that. And why is growling so…so…so intense? I think I know the answer to that too. These are the things I wonder if you wonder. Probably not, but I wonder anyway.
But my real question: What did he just say? I just can’t put my paw on it.
categories: biz, music
tags: artistic choice, fishbowl
posted by asstral at 12:34 pm
Ok, I’m having so much fun poofing, i’m even poofing myself. That way i only have myself to blame. But I’m in charge here, which means I can bend time and de-poof myself. So here’s the comment I poofed:
I don’t want to discuss that question, I want to discuss this question: if that lion is fully capabable of roaring, why doesn’t it always choose to roar? Because basically, it’s the same question.
Now, did I poof this because it’s off-topic, controversial or to avoid looking any more like an idiot? Frankly, I’m not sure myself, but I’m sure asstral will know.
I think it takes a lot of energy to roar. I think it must be tiring to roar all the time. I mean look at his face after he’s done roaring. He’s tired. He even licked his lips.
I hear 2 kinds of roar here: one that is the wild beast, the free spirit of the jungle, and the other the tame roar of the caged animal. Not everyone can go to the jungle, but everyone (who can stomach it!) can go to the zoo. So, you tell me… is it ok to tame the beast?
That lion’s a phony. If it were a real lion, fully capable of roaring, it would always choose to roar.
Actually, I wonder stuff like this all the time. The scary part is after a while I ‘think’ I might have the answers. Rorschach has nothing on me. I like this lion and feel a kinship to him. I find his roar a frustrated weary roar –like many roars before he had hoped to have his bravado alter something he found remiss in his environment. These roars sound like he has almost reconciled himself to never being heard and yet still feels the need to comment deeply enough that he pushes on to roar again. Its a diaphragm roar — its also a heart roar.
“I like this lion and feel a kinship to him”. Meg, that is some funny ass shit. You never let me down on concurring with my unstoned stoner thoughts.
Actually, if it was a real lion it would play it smart and only roar sometimes because if it roars all the time it would be boring already and no one would give a rats ass about it’s overdone roar. Blah blah blah the lion that roars all the time. Get over yourself fucking lion. Maybe we’ll just called you Cat Lion Power.
It’s sitting behind that cage, getting fed by the people at the zoo, getting it’s nails clipped by the zookeeper…. it’s gotta do some tricks sometimes, such as hold back on roaring and maybe growl, otherwise it will starve because it’s not really in the jungle anymore, it’s in the zoo.
This lion’s roar makes other animal cries pale by comparison. His full-bodied roar peaks at :27, where he reverses direction and starts into more gutteral, short bursts of roaring-cum-coughing - much like a cat trying to get up a furball. This lion is true to his art folks.
LOL!! I’ll volunteer for that. Besides, asstral, I don’t care if he’s tired. When he licks his lips like that I know his soul is really in it.
Well, yeah when he licks his lips is when we realize he wasn’t roaring for the hell of it. He was going somewhere with this roar.
I agree with Meg. I feel connected to this lion. We get each other.
simba, ew wait, are you making some kind of sexual connotation about the lion? Because if you are, you have to be really good looking and have really big boobs and if you’re not, that kind of talk isn’t allowed.
Compare it to singing – from the diaphragm is the right way to roar/sing. It’s more powerful, beautiful and authentic, something the lion doesn’t always have the heart for.
Big boobs, little boobs, old, young, good looking or looking like asstral - I don’t think the lion cares what his fans look like! He’s just happy to have people discussing his voice and his message.
asstral, if you’re going to crack down on fan-girly, you have to be consistent. the appearence of the poster is irrelevant. This blog is about music, or roaring. Hell, I forget what it’s about.
The lion might not care. But I do!!!
Ok What. After some deep introspective thoughts while sitting under my orange tree and scratching my chin, I have come to the conclusion of Playmate or not. No fan-lionessness allowed ever till the end of time.
>>No fan-lioness allowed ever till the end of time.
Assuming a play on fan-girliness, shouldn’t that be fan-lionessness? These things matter — well as much as any of the rest of this.
WTH? Lions, boobies, and orange trees?
A little early to be hitting the bongo, isn’t it asstral?
Robin you are right. Editing now.
Please T and Jam keep it about the topic and not about the posters drug using time of choice. I think the topic is about something about a lion roaring or something.
besides, maybe the bongo is where he keeps his deep thoughts, and he’s overdue
….and maybe when I come back this will all have been a bad dream. Or at least, there will be a nice clip of Naked in the Jungle playing in the post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPUqkhvmMXE
Here you go What!
Sounds like that lion gots a mighty big hairball to me. I’m just sayin’.
That was a sonic hairball that he didn’t want to eat, but merely taste.
HA! The lion is a phony.. that is soooo funny What!
I think the lion is singing…. that is what I choose to believe.
marvin gaye “lets get it on” that is the sound of a man roaring
He sounds like an old Chevy I had.
Just for what—
It’s no clip of Naked in the Jungle, but I do know of a certain singer that has a tendency to do high energy/full band stuff most of the show and have heard some suggest that maybe an accoustic number would be nice in the middle of a show.
Does that bring the topic around?
Hey you all… let’s not forget the amazing Paul Pena … he showed the world the strange beauty of NOT singing from the belly, but rather from the throat… I recall GC being a supporter of Paul’s music…
If you’ve never seen Genghis Blues, it’s wonderful and fascinating:
http://www.fotuva.org/gb/index.html
This is rare footage of Paul excerpted from the film, performing live in concert with a Tuvan throat-singing master:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-LYc06l2gGo
P.S. Paul also wrote the song, “Jet Airliner”, made famous by rocker Steve Miller in the mid 70’s.
Maybe the growl and roar thing is like crying wolf: if it’s done too often, it loses some of its effect.
Definitely from the diaphragm, and he is saying:
This is my house where I hang around
As soon as I get up, I start to get down
You dont need a place to stay
Our house is any old place we play
This is my house if you dont like it
Just get outta
Get outta
Get outta
Came up so fast gave me the bends
Now Im staring into a camera lens
From rags to riches and back again
But this is my house and I say when
This is my house…..
This is my house you know that’s final
Its made of plastic, magnetic tape and vinyl
This is my house now doncha know
We move in every time you turn on your radio
This is my house….
(courtesy of The Spin Doctors “This Is My House”)
Did someone say “Naked in the Jungle”?
The roar comes from the nuts. Without them, no roar. This is not to detract from the females of his species who are in fact prolific hunters doing damage with claw and teeth and who bellow in a different manner.
Some Buddhist interpretation from Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche which seems apropos to this site:
“The usual problem we have when emotions arise is that we feel we are being challenged by them. We think that emotions will take over our self-existence, our credential of existence. We are afraid that, if we become the embodiment of hatred or passion, then we won’t have any personal credentials anymore.
So usually we react against emotion, because we feel we might be taken over by it. We feel there is a strong possibility that we might freak out, lose our heads. We are afraid that aggression or depression will become so overwhelming that we will begin to lose our general functional level, forget how to brush our teeth, how to take a shit in the toilet or whatever. There’s some kind of fear that the whole thing might become too much, so that we might get hooked into it. Then we will lose our dignity, our ability to function as ordinary human beings like the others. That seems to be the problem.
So transmutation in this case means going through such fear or whatever else might be, or occur. Let yourself be nuts. Go through it, give into it, experience it. And when you begin to experience this process of going towards emotions rather than emotions coming towards you, then you begin to make a journey. You are making an effort towards them, therefore some actual relationship is involved, and a sense of dance begins to evolve.
This means that the highest forces of energy, any kind of extraordinary energies there might be, become absolutely workable rather than taking you over. This is because, if you are not offering any resistance, there’s nothing to take over. Whenever there’s no resistance, there is a sense of rhythm happening. The music and dance happen at the same time.
So that is what is called the lion’s roar: whatever occurs in the realm of samsaric mind is regarded as the path, and everything is workable. It is a fearless proclamation—lion’s roar.”
That’s what I always heard in that version of “Naked in the Jungle” that I so love…the lion’s roar. In the zoo it may not come as often and as spontaneously, but he still knows how to do it.
hello friend
whatever is inauthentic about the lion in the zoo is because of the nature of the zoo, not the nature of the lion
Of course, of course. But in fact the caged and the free are also states of mind. Is our lion up to the challenge of transcending his cage?
This poor lion is not used to being in the zoo. He spent the last 10 years of his life in the jungle, this is a big change for him! Let’s be supportive and patient and give him a chance to learn how to please the visitors yet remain true to his jungle heritage!
Actually, I think the lion looks relaxed and happy.
I think it’s all one big zoo, just a matter of different zoo keepers and cage mates.
Well, I’m sure life changes when you wake up each morning and night and see all the visitors in the zoo staring at you day after day after day. It could probably make a lion a little anxious, maybe even guarded. But I’m sure the lion eventually learns how to ‘be a good boy’ for the patrons of the zoo.
Basengeewhizlookwhoitis, I most definitely know the lion is up to transcending his cage, indeed. Not over night though.
Yes, but for his trouble, the patrons then complain that he doesn’t seem like a real lion anymore.
…..and boy am I tired of this metaphor.
What, who said it was a metaphor?
and who knows what he’s talking about
I voted for the lion 400 times.
The Lion was once a kitten. Maybe sometimes he remembers kittenish things and feels more like purring than roaring.
I think the lion got up on the wrong side of the cage and is saying “What are YOU lookin’ at? Yeah, I’m a caged lion. You got a problem with that?”
That’s how I feel when I’m caged in a vehicle and stuck in traffic on the NJ Turnpike in rush hour surrounded by other caged animals in vehicles.
As for the anatomy of the roar, It looks like it’s a process involving various body parts. Like coughing or singing.
To roar is to live
The Lion proudly proclaims
No cage restrains him