my tunes were played on the harp unstrung
I remember the first time I tasted ice-cream, I was a toddler; the first time I saw the ocean, I was three; the first time I held a kitten, I was 4. I remember the first time I heard a live Jam in Haight Ashbury , I was 12. Some new things feel strange at first like shoes that you have to break in. You might even decide they’re not worth it and reach in your closet for the old comfortable pair with that lived-in feel. Occasionally something is right immediately; there is no break-in time. It’s like you’ve finally come home. A switch is flipped and you are suddenly alive in a whole new way. It’s like: “Where has this been all my life?” You belong. The description sounds like falling in love; and I guess it is. That was how I felt when I heard that jam. I never wanted to leave, in fact part of me is still there.
We are all a bit different, us humans. Thank GOD!! It keeps stuff interesting.
My grandma always made my Uncle the exact same meal because he loved it and that’s what he wanted to eat. He did not want something to change that ‘perfect’ culinary pleasure he experienced each time he had ‘his meal’. Over the two decades or so that I ate that meal with them I can attest that it never tasted different. I have no clue how Grandma was able to standardize with more precision than McDonalds. She did do it. Pork roast, mash potatoes, gravy and southern style green beans were served with such exactness you’d have believed cloning had already been patented by my own grandmother.
One time when I was about 17, I took my 7 year old nephew to a seaside Jamfest in the afternoon. On the way home we listened to my Allman Brothers tape. We had a long trip home so we listened to the thing over and over again. I asked Eddie what he thought of the music that day. He said he liked the live stuff better but that Uncle Jack would like the tape. “Huh?”, I said, not following his reasoning yet. “The tape is like eating at Grandma’s; it’s always the same. ”
That was one of those comments that has stuck with me.
Some people like to have art that doesn’t change. Once it seems perfect they want to toss the fixative on and keep it just like that. They want to stop time in that perfect moment. Art, for them is immortalized by freezing a moment in time. This is valid. It’s photography, it’s what we see in sculptures and paintings and great motion pictures. It’s what we hear in recorded music. ‘Gone with the Wind’ is always the same movie. The lines are delivered in the exact same way. It would be so weird if Clark Gable suddenly said — “Well frankly Scarlet, it’s about time!” Or if the Mona Lisa became a blond.
Art forms: There is static art like a painting and there is also dynamic art like a jam session. Dynamic art is ever changing, evolving, mutating.
I think about odd things like what if I had turned left rather than right? What if I had phoned an hour sooner. How would making a tiny change end up effecting everything. I was thinking about that last night as I was playing a song I wrote some years back. I was all ready to go to an A major chord but instead I went to an E 7th. The whole song became new.
Jerry Garcia said: ” …you like some music and you don’t like others. There’s something about it that you like. Ultimately I don’t find it’s in my best interests to try and analyze it, since it’s fundamentally emotional.”
Suffering from a malady that bulls me on to overanalyze everything, I enjoy taking a step back and resting on those words from Garcia. He impacted me so much years ago when I had the incredible pleasure of playing a little backup banjo for him and David Grisman. Some well meaning, very drunk fan came up to Jerry and said, “I love how you do ‘LOSER’ man, I love it, I’ve got the record.” Jerry laughed and said, “So you like the way I did it that day.” What an answer!! That says it all.
When I see a band live what I love is them making the old stuff bran new. If you perform songs you’ve recorded play around with the harmonics–surprise me. If you do a cover — sing it new. If you tag then spin your tags like a magical conversation that dances around the trunk of the song. Make a story out of the performance. A story that is just for that night. Tomorrow will have a different feel.
That evening with Garcia and Grisman was a long time ago. Over the years I followed the music they made together and any time I saw them live I was caught up in the depth and wonderful humor of their friendship. They were truly a pair who had great respect for each other and who could read each other’s thoughts on stage while never, never doing anything the same.
If you have not heard Grisman live — do it sometime. He gives a whole new range and definition to mandolin playing.
I have two clips for you of Grisman and Garcia. The first is clearly a video, replete with storybook feel that they made together. That’s not my type of thing really but I’m sticking it in here because it captures some of Grisman’s magic. It shows what he can make that instrument do. The second speaks to the smooth comfort of their work together. See what you think.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAW0R3ZyoMk]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U67PVvO7WI&mode=related&search=]
And if those are not enough entertainment for you, the next one is a must. We have an extremely talented musician named Kurt Schindle who plays a lot of different instruments extremely well performing here with Two Hobbits in a masterful rendition of the Garcia-Grisman tune, “Grateful Dawg”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwkQhK5_phk]
Now it’s your turn to talk and I hope you do. You can share with us if there was a time in your life like mine at that first Jam when something bran new clicked for you like it was your oxygen — like it was your home. Maybe it was riding a dirt bike for you — I don’t know, you tell me. Or you can talk about what you think of static art and dynamic art — or you can talk about the music. Hey, we can ALWAYS talk about the music.
categories: music
posted by megcollins at 06:00 am
Looks like I’m first at bat. I open the blog this morning and what do I find? Jerry Garcia!!! Grisman and Garcia were tight but I think Dave was jealous of the Dead. Dave can play really good too. Thanks for the post between liking my sushi comment and now Jerry, you folks make a guy feel at home. Jerry was just like that quote of him and the drunk fan. It was all about what he was playing that min. First time I heard the Dead it was like wow. I can say I always felt like that. It was them that gave me that I belong feeling and meeting my wife too, pull out the corn cobs but its true. I saw a song on Youtube of Jerry where my wife and I were. He was pretty sick that day. Can I show it to you folks by just cut and past?
Hey Jazzy- nice to see you this morning. I thought you might like the post. I would love to see the clip you are talking about and I’m sure I’m not alone. What you do is go to Youtube and click on the video you want to watch then copy the address that shows up in the browsers window. It will have the full address. Then just paste it into the ‘leave a reply’ box. I hope that was clear.
I’ve got some thoughts that this brought up about ‘that other guy’ and the conversation about why California (in general) has been less warm to him than elsewhere. I can say this having lived in So Cal 95% of my life and Nor Cal the other 5%…maybe California in general (and So Cal in particular) has a very high percentage of people like Meg’s uncle? I mean for all the talk of Californian individualism there are more blond haired , big breasted women with ‘the right kind of lips’ and ‘the right kind of nails’, etc. Not all god-given of course.
Just a quick thought. Gotta run.
Malisa, most of us free thinking hippies are up here in Northern California. My theory is: So Cal doesn’t like did him because he isn’t cookie cutter enough, and Nor Cal doesn’t him because they think he IS a cookie cutter product. I love Califorina, but we sure are a land of extremes. No middle ground for us, no sir-ee!
To the question of the blog…
I have a few times in my life that were like that, the first being the first time I went to Yosemite. That was a religious experience. And it is every time I visit that place. Then there is the time in 9th grade when I played in an orchestra that was outstanding…to me, anyway. Being a part of that music was overwhelming and beautiful and I never wanted to leave. There are more, but that’s enough for today.
There are a handful of “take your breath away moments” in my life but I will stick with the musical ones. The Beatles were the first to do it to me but I never had the opportunity to see them in concert (which might be a good thing cause if they could do that to me on the small TV screen I was watching, I cant imagine what seeing them in person might have done to a 12 year old girl) so in that vein I would have to say it was seeing The Beach Boys in concert when I was 12 years old. THAT was one hell of an oxygen deprived moment for me. When they did Little Deuce Coupe I thought I was gonna die in the way that a young teenaged girl thinks she is gonna die when her hormones are raging. Whew! Id give my right arm to be able to see The Beatles in person and The original Beach Boys again. I can hear music….sweet sweet music.
I just want to toss in how much I am loving the comments you guys are sharing with me. It’s a real pleasure. It’s like a ‘talk Jam’. Yosemite does have some kind of deep visceral magic that it imbues. I did see the Bealtles live, Dingo — I guess that’s another post for me to write some time in the future huh? What I’ll say about that now in short is no record or movie or TV or video of them has come close for me because being there takes you to a whole new orthogonal dimension and the energy that came off of those 4 dudes was like a star going supper nova and bursting into creating a whole new galaxy.
Thinking about your points that deal with static art vis a vis dynamic and your use of Mr. Garcia here to exemplify the later. I was thinking about how he actually had a deep appreciation of both forms since he was a painter too.
My first “change me” moment was as a little guy leaning up against an old Spinet piano in our church while my mom played gospel. I could feel the vibration of the wood against my head and shoulder. The music and singing were everywhere. I thought something like “this must be what heaven is.”
What about the corollary? Seems like every day someone wants to know about our “deep/meaningful/life changing/affirming” relationships to music. Man, that’s a tough mountain to scale. What about that three minute pop song that was great for a month and then you never listened to it again? Is there a place for it?
Example: Liz Phair produced some incredibly amazing stuff early in her career. A few summers ago during the beginning of her “sell out” phase “Why Can’t I?” hit the streets. Monster hook, great riff, fun for a month - haven’t heard it since. That’s why the Jack Black character in High Fidelity starts his hot mix tape with a Katrina and the Waves song.
Great music can be temporary as well.
…and bad music can be eternal. I still know all the words and tune to the Oscar Meyer Weiner jingle.
But getting back to the static vs. changing dichotomy. There’s also ephemeral art: here today and gone tomorrow, like the sidewalk chalk art you see all over Europe, or sand paintings. Or for that matter, sand castles.
But I guess I’m just repeating what Lindbergh is saying. Songs like he’s talking about are like musical chalk paintings: look great and suit their immediate audience and situation, but gone with the next rain.
This makes me think of Andy Goldsworthy, English artist who lives in Scotland. Most of his art is ephemeral, sculptures made of leaves, branches, stones, ice, etc… which he then fixes into static art by photographing these sculptures at various stages of change. I once saw a documentary that shows him at work… amazing!
I love theater, dance, live music for the “right in the moment feeling” that they give me. Ha! But there is also great pleasure in watching a favorite movie, listening to a song I love, looking at an amazing piece of art, to delight in them over and over again. As the “watcher”, I apreciate both forms of art, though if I am watching something live, I want some edge to it, I don’t want it to be “safe”.
By the way, I don’t consider cooking to be a static art, and I really feel bad for your grandmother… then maybe she was truly your grandfather’s soulmate! What about breakfast and lunch??? The same too? Just curious. I was raised in France after all, and food is serious business for me!
Am I allowed to say the F word here? I hope so because this site is fucking great!!! Nice job to the c2what crew!! And something about that letterman clip. That was right on. I love mixing hollywood with real music - mixing flavors somehow has a stronger impact on me you know . Like Prosciutto and melon.
What clicked with me? I would say the sound of the blues. I don’t even remember when it was. It was a sound that resonated with what I feel internally and but had an inability to express. Isn’t is funny that the blues bring comfort? How can blues + blues = peace? I’ve thought about this. I feel people are looking to be understood and to relate whether it be with one person or a movement. When you’ve got a case of the blues the underlying feeling is loneliness but when you listen to the blues you realize you’re not alone. Great site.
Ahhhh Meg. Id give anything to be able to have seen The Beatles and I am always GREEN with envy of those who had the opportunity. Its very possible that its my age and that Im nostalgic for absolutely any music that brings back those days but I would really love for you and anyone else who saw them live and have vivid memories of how it was to relay it all to me. My bestest friend saw them at Shea Stadium. I have a love/hate relationship with her. Music is a powerful thing and I always feel a little sorry for those who dont understand my love of it. I have a lot of “bubble gum” music on my iPod. I sing the words to “Sugar, Sugar” all the time. My neighbor thinks Im nuts. I dont know, maybe I am but it sure feels good.
We are cooken — Dingo I’ll do it for sure and SL loved your comment. That is so true about the blues. It’s like a poultice that sucks out the sad.
A friend of mine’s son-in-law is an international sand sculpturer. By the nature of the sand sculpting, the art does not remain. It is subject to the elements. I have spent a lot of time looking at his incredible work lamenting the inevitable demise. I have thought, actually about how it is a lot like a fabulous live jam session. I have thought about how photos of his work and recordings I have made of great live music share in common the quality of only ’sort’ of capturing the live event.
Check out some of Damon’s work if you have an interest. He is great.
http://www.damonfarmer.com/
I know that hotdog jingle too, WHAT and gobs of other annoying music. Sometimes I wonder about how much of my brain is actually devoted to recalling all the tune and words to countess shallow songs–and ads.
It could be fun to have a topic post on Lousy Songs we still sing in our heads.
As far as Uncle Jack goes. That was my grandma’s son. He only got that meal when he’d come home to visit (which was very often.) It was his favorite thing as a kid and thus when he left home he suddenly had that emotional pull with his mom to exact this silent contract between them.
Hi Meg and others.. I actually trying to paste the following comments at around 4a.m. PT, but the Reply box had been turned into a link for Schindle’s site!, so I had to wait til it was fixed!
So, here goes:
First of all, Meg, very cool connection with Jerry and David Grisman! love those first two videos…
i had the great fortune to be at the premieres of two of the amazing films of David’s daughter Gillian Grisman in the last several years:
Back in 2000 for “Grateful Dawg”, her doc about her dad and Jerry Garcia (STRONGLY recommended!),
and then less than 2 years ago for her film about Robert Randolph (and the Family Band) called “PRESS ON” (which still hasn’t been made available yet cause of problems she had getting releases, apparently).. truly incredible doc!; see it when/if you ever can…
Gillian’s IMDB bio: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342601/bio
Btw, she’s directed a new film which is supposed to be excellent called “MY SECRET RECORD: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love the Biz”–
which “traces the creative process and aggressive marketing campaign of Rob Thomas’s Billboard-history-making solo debut, Something to Be…”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017450/
Btw, after that unbelievable screening of “PRESS ON” in Oct. 05, I was smuggled by a friend in to a tiny bar nearby in Mill Valley called the Sweetwater, and Robert and the guys treated about 100 of us packed like sardines to one of the most outrageous evenings (til past 4a.m.) of music I’ve ever witnessed..
Robert took us to church that night, and I’ve been a loyal fan of his ever since..
A few months ago, when Robert and the band played at the Warfield in San Francisco, and I got to be at the edge of the stage soaking it all in (like when Mr. HIcks played there a month later!),
much to our surprise and added pleasure, David Grisman came out and did 2 encores with him.. what a huge treat!
I have so many similar ‘breathe-in-the-oxygen’ experiences like these, ever since I was a kid, cause my parents had music of all sorts (jazz, classical, blues, opera…) playing on the ‘hi-fi’ at home all the time, and I had lessons on piano and guitar too…
I’m so grateful for how they inculcated me so powerfully…
Welcome, SL. As you’ll see, we believe in adverbial freedom here. Totally agree with your take on the blues. I think blues builds on the tradition of art as catharsis, but with the brilliant discovery that community is much more powerful than any plaster deus ex machina ever could be.
Hope I did this right. I guess we’ll see. This is the video I was talking about. He’s solo in the middle is real cool too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX9Vhv4akxc
I 2nd the vote for Gilliam Grisman’s documentary “Grateful Dawg”. It is very real and very well done. LaRosita -I enjoyed taking that trip through your post. COOL!!
And WHAT I must say that your comment:
“I think blues builds on the tradition of art as catharsis, but with the brilliant
discovery that community is much more powerful than any plaster deus ex
machina ever could be.”
is just so right on for me. Thanks. It says it.
Great discussion. You guys rock. Thinking here about Dingo’s mention of the Beatles and how both John Lennon and Jerry Garcia started out in art school. They both created music that changed the way a lot of people looked at the world. They had the artist spirit that sometimes is so huge it needs to come out in different forms.
Garcia Art.
http://jerrygarcia.com/art-portfolio-new.html
I guess I should stop posting on my own Topic huh guys??? - But first, Jazzybug !!! Man o man. I am not sure what it was about that video clip you sent but it tore my guts out. There was so much in it. Maybe part of it for me was so clearly remembering that very young Garcia and feeling his pain in this video to the extreme. Jerry’s Bluegrass roots are so clearly felt in it too. I did like the solo you pointed to. It demonstrates how great solos don’t have to always be lightening fast. I think that has become a misconception. WAY WRONG. It’s not how fast but what you play. He put so much musical language into that solo.
Back to what you are calling static art and dynamic art. It seems to me that people are drawn to the arts because of what the experience does for them. How does it make them feel? How does it change their mood or their perspective or their emotions. I had an idea about it. Here is a metaphor for what’s in my brain about this. Static art is like a ticket to return to a place you’ve already been because going there did ‘x’ for you and you want ‘x’ back. Dynamic art is like getting a ticket to some place new. A wild card. Now does that mean that jam fans are more adventurous? Maybe so. Static art never gets better but it never gets worse. Dynamic art can be unbelievably good and also bad. When an artist takes a leap in a live gig it is truly working without a net. Does that mean Jam fans are more forgiving? Might be true. You have me thinking. My wife says that’s dangerous but she likes records better than live bands ha, so go figure.
Another musician that started out in art school. He is a world musician troubador. His website has his music and paintings. His myspace has a duet with Ben Harper. I love his work.
Piers Faccini
http://www.piersfaccini.com/
Here’s the Myspace with Ben Harper. Check out “If I”.
http://myspace.com/piersfaccini
Access to the Internet in 1994. I had to install Trumpet and
Netscape Navigator ver 1 and Eudora for email. I was amazed at the first Website I saw which was Netscape. I still have all my email going back to that day.
I am a big Ben Harper fan. These are some great links. I was not aware of Piers Faccini before your post I’m sorry to say. Good stuff.
Guess what keeps coming up an inordinate on my ipod today while shuffling?
http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=76536
Assonance,
Then you should love this as I did. Juan Nelson contributes to Pier’s Tearing Sky band. Here’s the backstory, highlighting Piers as a 2007 artist. It’s what I admire most about the jam culture…it’s diversity and inclusivity.
excerpt-”Plunier cast Ben Harper’s Innocent Criminals’ bassist Juan Nelson and Jack Johnson drummer Adam Topol as key players in the Tearing Sky band. Percussionist Leon Mobley and drummer Oliver Charles, also Innocent Criminals, appear with Merlo Podlewski (Jack Johnson), Inara George, legendary multi-instrumentalist Chris Darrow and Harper himself (backing vocals on leadoff track “Each Wave That Breaks”) also appear.”
http://www.bonnaroo.com/piers-faccini
I am knocked out by this. I’m dying because I was at bonnaroo this year for part of it and the sets I missed are coming to haunt me. You are absolutely correct about the jam culture.
assonance: but what did you catch that was worth the catching?
Debunot, thank you for the links to Piers Faccini. Love him!
This has been a great thread today. Thanks Meg for starting it with your always interesting and thoughtful posts.
Youtube is so addictive! Your post about PF sent me looking for some stuff. Pretty cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA__bM7abhg&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvZHlgoYmJM&mode=related&search=
Thank you mamaforpeace.
This is a podcast for you and What.
PRI - Global Hit Piers Faccini w/partial transcript
http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/6395
“This song, “Sons and Daughters” has him playing a Persian spike fiddle, and a guitar in the style of Ali Farka Toure.”
I’ve been told that his live performances include many vocal Persian influences as well.
I know that most don’t hunt and gather their own food anymore, but I enjoy an artist that is compelled to write about life.
I’ve been listening to everything of Piers Faccini I can get my hands on today. I think it’s time for a road trip. I want to see him live.
To What’s question about what we heard at Bonnarro that was was worth catching. The general answer is I didn’t hear a set that wasted my time.
Is it just me or is there a Ray LaMontagne quality to Piers?
I’ll go Assonance, come along mamaforpeace.
Actually, I was looking at the date he is going to be in Oakland and hoping I could make it (I live near Sacramento). I am using up my road trip to go see Taylor in NY! I’ve sent emails with the links to Piers to a bunch of friends. Maybe I’ll catch him in France next summer when I go visit family!
And yes, I did think there was a little Ray LaMontagne feel to him.
After your comment, Debunot, I put on some of my LaMontagne to think it over. It seems to me that there is something in the quality of their vocal delivery when Ray is not pushing. If that makes any logic here.
You have me listening to all this music. It is the most fun this old Deadhead has had in years. Piers rounds his notes more than LaMontagne. He is smoother. LaMon is crisper.
OK –you ready? You guessed what’s coming now I bet. This is Jerry playing some mean licks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QNjD9d4aRU
Thanks for all your feedback. To date I’ve had minimal interest in his music from fellow posters and bloggers (equally). It doesn’t damper my enthusiasm for his artistry, but it’s a pleasant connection to others when there is a connection.
Wow debunot, I am amazed that you have not found more people who are into Piers. What is there deal? Have they just not heard of him and don’t want to bother with someone new to them? I don’t get it. I personally think he’s fabulous.
I also appreciate everything you have brought to this topic. I have enjoyed all the links you and others have shared. There is nothing more fun that talking music and listening to music.
And Jazzybug, I enjoy your devotion for the Dead. Garcia will always have a special spot in my heart too.
Debunot: if they don’t get his music it’s their loss. I’m glad I know about him. Now to go see him live and soon. I bet he really cooks. How do these people react to Harper?
Assonance,
Everyone I speak with respects Ben’s musicianship or his collaborative efforts.
This is what I think it is. Tom Waits once said that it was surprising to him that another artist like Johnny Cash would cover a song of his (he jokes that Cash even “fixed” the lyrics for him). He says that you need to be ready to receive the music or you’re really just (paraphrase) sitting and looking at somebody elses photo album.
This happened to me this year with Joan as Police Woman. Her Real Life cd was released exactly a year ago in the UK (wonder why?). She was listed at Relix as “On the Verge”. I blew right past her to an easily accessible female rock blues singer. This year I pop in the “Paste” sampler and decide to just listen to what jumps out at me. It’s Joan Wasser. I have a lot more “still” time in my life this year and I was looking to take her in. The Avett Brother, Joan, and Piers are all celebrating the quiet beauty of life and music. Anger and/or sex grabs you faster.
I just read your post Meg. This was a great topic and it’s great that What has let us amble around.
I think the world music label gets in the way. Ironically American artists like Sharon Jones and most Jazz and Blues artists financially exist on their concerts overseas. They are essentially “World” artists.
glad for the heads-up on faccini, esp since it appears I’ll be able to catch him live soon.
Thing is, I know I have an earlier connection to him rolling around in my brain, but I can’t seem to draw it up.
What,
Maybe it was the Relix “On The Verge”. They are a good fit for me.
“His latest, Tearing Sky, showcases it all, though it by no means does his live performance—where his guitar playing stretches out and his vocal range soars from a near growl to an angelic, traditional Pakistani-like affectation—justice. Says Faccini, “If you don’t feel like what you’re doing is in some way unique, then why bother doing it?”
link
http://tinyurl.com/yw9r7q
Great point about why people could miss Piers, debunot, I have been through that as well. The first time I heard Pat Metheny, for example, I was only kind of impressed. I was with someone who was going ape for the guy and my brain just wasn’t there. Honestly, I’m embarrassed to share this almost. Then about 2 years later the channel was opened and I was stunned — not just by how good he was playing but how I could have missed the depth and breath the first time around. Piers has so much that he offers but it is in a way more for the contemplative spirit to hear.
Yay Jerry!